Episode 16: Happy New Year!! Welcome to 2026!!

A 25-year music milestone sets the stage for a spirited, unfiltered year-end session that swings from global gratitude to personal growth and right back into the culture. We kick off with Red Dot Music’s anniversary, holiday check-ins, and a surprising listener map that stretches from New York to Singapore, turning download stats into a reminder that patience and consistency pay off. That momentum fuels a frank look at the past year—jobs chased, boundaries enforced, and the simple discipline of picking a word to live by.

The mood shifts as we grapple with stories that test empathy and judgment. A report on religious persecution in North Korea opens hard questions about faith, freedom, and what it means to hold on to hope under pressure. A decades-old parental kidnapping case—mother, daughter, new identity—forces us to weigh punishment against restoration when motive and safety blur the lines. Between these heavy beats, we come up for air with light roast and quick laughs, because sometimes the only way to carry the weight is together.

Culture and tech fire up the second half. We salute Venus Williams’ wedding and the Williams sisters’ lasting impact, then argue a fan-favorite: who had the stronger three-album run—Brandy, Monica, or Aaliyah? Expect receipts, harmonies, and friendly bias. From there, we dig into China’s AI-only clinics. Faster triage and 24/7 access sound incredible, but what about misdiagnosis, data privacy, and oversight? We pry into the tradeoffs and sketch a practical middle ground: guardrails, second opinions, and better health literacy. We land with a pocketful of “gems” for the new year—be someone’s peace, tell the truth kindly, journal when voices fail you, and keep your standards high.

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Transcript

Cold Open & House Rules

SPEAKER_11 0:00

Welcome to the table. The opinions of this podcast are for entertainment purposes only.

SPEAKER_09 0:06

Our thoughts and views are not to be taken personally.

SPEAKER_08 0:09

It is not that serious. We are trained professionals at being regular ass people. If you can't take what we serve in, this is not the table for you.

Red Dot Music’s 25th Anniversary

SPEAKER_11 0:18

Reservation denied. Enjoy the show. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the table. It is the 25th anniversary of Red Dot Music. Yes, my record label that I had back in the day. And this is one of the greatest records I ever created with an artist named Tina who I won't get into it, but meaning he's on the background.

SPEAKER_05 0:41

He always said this.

SPEAKER_11 0:44

Hope y'all enjoy it.

SPEAKER_05 0:48

Yes.

SPEAKER_11 0:54

How was everyone's Christmas? I hope you got what you needed, got what you want, and gave back the things you did. Cause I'm here.

SPEAKER_02 1:07

Can't wait another day.

SPEAKER_05 1:13

Yes. Show me the word. Show me the way. If it's like this regularly.

SPEAKER_02 1:32

Oh my god. Produced by me.

SPEAKER_05 1:37

So be bitch. That you need a bite me.

SPEAKER_11 1:41

Arranged about by me. Sounds so lovely. Oh, this record is so dope. Sing it.

SPEAKER_02 2:03

I made some good money music and never put it up. Almost like that up, buddy. If you like this music, let me know. I'll put it up. I'm so self-conscious.

SPEAKER_05 2:37

Oh, oh.

SPEAKER_11 2:41

Shout out to Tina, whatever you want, I appreciate you, girl. Even though you thought I was trying to do some ill shit, which is crazy.

SPEAKER_01 2:56

Oh, oh my god.

Holiday Check-In And Listener Shoutouts

SPEAKER_02 3:20

If you like this like it, let me know. The music is always been here. I know whatever music is I'm like. Let me get music like this though. Christmas! Looking forward to New Year's tomorrow.

SPEAKER_11 3:53

Oh my god. Red Dot Entertainment. 25 year anniversary. I got so many records. But uh, if you like that, let me know. Oh, welcome back to the table. I hope you had a great Christmas. I hope you got what you asked for. I hope you was on a naughty naughty list. Maybe, well, maybe nice list. Maybe both is good. If you're new to the show, I am Mister. And I got two ghosts. And I'm not here anymore.

SPEAKER_04 4:32

I am that woman.

SPEAKER_08 4:34

Wummy. Oh Lloyd. And it begins. Oh my god. And it begins. She's a woman. I'm a wombie. I'm that woman. Nine nine. We're down. Shut it up. Oh no. She started sweating instantly.

SPEAKER_11 5:04

And you are.

SPEAKER_04 5:06

No.

SPEAKER_09 5:10

This is your boy Jerk Peppa Stepper. Jerk Peppa Stepper. Also known as Sean A. Jerk Peppa Pepper.

Meet The Hosts And New Year Intentions

SPEAKER_11 5:17

And we are back. Tomorrow is New Year's. I hope everyone had the two 2025 year that they deserved.

SPEAKER_06 5:27

Countdown.

SPEAKER_11 5:28

Um and with saying that, I hope next year is one of your best years. Um going into New Year's, uh anything y'all would take back from this year or wish y'all done this year, or anything you're looking forward to to next year?

SPEAKER_09 5:49

I take back my virginity.

SPEAKER_11 5:51

Oh, they they took it from you roughly?

SPEAKER_06 5:54

He said this year. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yep. No, every year his virginity is uh I held on till I got married. Oh, you married now? Surprise. Oh shit.

SPEAKER_11 6:07

What's that? A cubic?

SPEAKER_09 6:13

You're not gonna disrespect my spouse. And who's that? Jack Pepper, Mr. Stepper.

SPEAKER_11 6:22

Mr. Stepper. All right. The block knocker. The whole rocker.

SPEAKER_07 6:30

The whole rocker? Oh.

SPEAKER_11 6:34

I thought it was going in a circle.

SPEAKER_07 6:36

I mean, we could have, but there. Did I shut the circle down? Yeah. Circle chat claw.

SPEAKER_04 6:43

Oh, wow.

SPEAKER_11 6:45

Circle chat. I can't wait till that come back out. Wow. But um, any no, seriously, uh, is how was this year for you? And what do you look forward to next year?

SPEAKER_09 6:56

Um, this year was I'm not gonna say it was a bad year. This year was it was decent, eye-opening for a lot of things, especially um work-related, um, and some personal relationships, especially with family. Um, very eye-opening. So moving into the next year, I just have a clearer view of how I'm moving, who I'm moving with, and buckle up bitches and get out the way.

SPEAKER_08 7:32

Move, bitch. No, I absolutely hear that. This year for me has been a healing journey that it will probably carry into 2026, but um, like Shonet said, it definitely is an eye-opener. Um I've managed to not slap the shit out of people that I want to slap the shit out of.

SPEAKER_10 7:54

That's very, very good.

SPEAKER_08 7:55

Um theory works. It works, but I also realize that I need to go back. Um, yeah, like like Shawnee said, you your growth allows you to move in different areas. There's certain areas that don't serve you no purpose. So if like you're around people who want to stay stagnant, then you need to leave those people behind. And it's a hard thing sometimes, like you said, it's family, it's friends, it's you know, people around you, and sometimes you just gotta be like, boo, bitch, get out the way.

SPEAKER_09 8:34

There you go.

SPEAKER_08 8:35

Because I'm trying to do bigger and better things next year.

SPEAKER_11 8:39

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_09 8:40

And you, Mister? Uh, it is.

Personal Growth, Boundaries, And Patience

SPEAKER_11 8:46

I look at every year as a uh I don't I don't ever take the bad out of the year. I think everything that happened in the year is supposed to happen. I'm exactly where I need to be. Um, I applied for some new positions. I didn't get them, but I got them. Got uh what you said got them? What? No, I didn't get them.

SPEAKER_02 9:08

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_11 9:10

Yo, yo.

SPEAKER_08 9:14

I just realized what you really say. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_11 9:17

Yeah, yeah. Well done. Well fucking done. Well fucking done. That's that's good. Work p work positions.

SPEAKER_07 9:34

Hey. What you gotta do in 2020?

SPEAKER_11 9:40

Wasn't ready for those, and I think it it was I I purposely You prepped? No, you know what? I'm I'm off of that. Um my God, I'm just I am. Yeah, you digging a hole, buddy. Whatever. So yeah, though that went well. Oh my god. See how it feels? Yeah, it that's good. That's good. Tag it back though.

SPEAKER_08 10:04

Um you did enough tagging.

SPEAKER_11 10:07

Yeah, I know. I did a year's worth. Yeah. Um, I think a year. Thank you. We've been doing this. Oh, we've been about to be three years. Oh no. Um, but yeah, I think I I think 2026 is going to I I I I I'm an optimistic person, so I think it's just gonna be better than the it's always gonna be better than the previous year. Yeah, this year was better than last year. Um, and I I just think it's gonna continue to die away. I'm always looking to the positives of things. I always do this thing where I create I have this word that I have to live by through the year. And uh I think my word with last year was no. I think it was I think it was patience.

SPEAKER_04 10:54

Okay.

SPEAKER_11 10:54

I think my year, uh I think it was patience, and I I think I live by that pretty true throughout the year. Maybe sometimes while driving, I kind of lost my patience. But I I'm gonna come up with a word for next year that I'm gonna have to live by. I think my mom started this with us for a while.

SPEAKER_08 11:12

Patience again. Should be you ain't you ain't you ain't um graduated. I haven't achieved that.

Podcast Stats, Global Listeners, And Gratitude

SPEAKER_11 11:18

I haven't I think I've I've done well with patience this year. Huh? But as far as the podcast goes for the year since we started in 2023, we uh we have 2,321 downloads. So thank you for the people out there who are downloading us. We appreciate you. We have published 107 episodes. That's a big thing. I we we I didn't think we were gonna get this far. Um, but this is what patience and uh what we like to do, and people are enjoying it. We are on I'm sorry. Never give up on your passion, people.

SPEAKER_08 12:05

Um sometimes you want to.

SPEAKER_11 12:08

Let me see. We are all together. Oh, we're we're 179 uh uh downloads away from hitting 2500. We're currently at 22321, which is good, and we have reached over Oh my god, so many places. Let's just make it quick. We have we've uh 29. Well, this is recent, let's do all episodes. So 2135 downloads was in North America by itself. So thank you. We had 48 downloads in Europe, we had 109 downloads in Asia. That lady voice and all that shit we were talking last episode. Yes, y'all were. Uh we had we had seven uh downloads in Africa, we had eight downloads in um Oceana, and eight downloads in South America. So we've oh wow, we've uh ja thank you. And our we had 21, 221 downloads close to our town, um, but the second highest downloads was in New York. Um, so thank you. Oh shit, we have 56 downloads in Singapore.

SPEAKER_08 13:37

Yeah, thanks to me.

SPEAKER_11 13:39

Let's let's see. I want to see the uh we had 19 downloads in Saskatchewan. So thank you out there in Saskatchewan.

SPEAKER_08 13:52

Oh, you say that so well.

SPEAKER_11 13:54

I uh um his tongue not heavy no more. Uh-huh. Living on a dream. Uh let's see. I want to see uh another wild, wild one here. Miami, Florida. That's not wild. Um Hong Kong.

SPEAKER_08 14:09

Five dollars. Yes, hello. Hong Kong, thank you, Hong Kong. Oh, should be Shihini Bana.

SPEAKER_11 14:15

Ho Chima, Ho Chima City, Ho Chima, wherever you are in Ho Chima, four downs, thank you for the four people down there. Uh but it's literally Ho Chima. I'm I hope I'm saying that right, but I'm gonna say this shit all Ho Chima. Yes. Thank you. Thank you for uh I don't even know how to say this. I don't this is this is crazy. I don't even know what this is. I'ma spell it. R-E-Y-K-J-A-V I K U R B O R G. Thank you for downloads.

SPEAKER_09 15:01

It's pronounced Salmon.

SPEAKER_11 15:05

It's pronounced you killed my father. That's red. That's what you just spelled. Thank you for everyone who's been downloading. Uh thank you. It's been an amazing year. Um this year we were supposed to do some video podcasting, and uh, we're trying to work this thing out. I I am so new to this video stuff. Um, and we are we are there, um, but we are trying our hardest to get this started, so we will be there by next year. I guarantee you that.

SPEAKER_08 15:39

Other than that, you done with your dissertation.

SPEAKER_11 15:45

It's it's a year wrap-up. New Year's tomorrow. You all want to celebrate what we did for the year? Oh, you don't back to Num NumN?

SPEAKER_09 15:57

You said what? I said all you did was Lady Boys. Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_11 16:27

All right. That's it for me. Uh, what's going on in this upside down world?

SPEAKER_08 16:34

Lady Boys. How was work? You didn't say that.

SPEAKER_11 16:38

Oh. Um did you work?

SPEAKER_07 16:41

I was about to say That's why he didn't say it either.

Work, Vacations, And Life Admin

SPEAKER_11 16:45

My last day before my vacation was Christmas Eve. I got some work done on Christmas Eve, and I worked the whole day, and I'm not going back to work until the new year, so I'm on vacation, baby. I'm I ain't got shit to do. Lines actually started today.

SPEAKER_09 17:01

Yay! I'm still on vacation as well.

SPEAKER_11 17:04

Yeah, you started before me. Yeah, you started live the uh Yeah, you did. He lied. Oh.

SPEAKER_09 17:11

I started Christmas Eve.

SPEAKER_11 17:13

Oh, you're you're oh oh, so you didn't work Christmas Eve. Oh, I okay, I worked. So yeah, you you still started a day before me. It's a day.

SPEAKER_08 17:24

Not your glue. Well, you guys started a week before me. All right, uh, other than that, what's going on?

North Korea, Faith, And Free Worship

SPEAKER_09 17:33

So bring us back to our fans over in Asia.

SPEAKER_08 17:35

Hurrow.

SPEAKER_11 17:37

Oh, sure.

SPEAKER_09 17:39

What are y'all doing over there? So you know how North Korea is crazy.

SPEAKER_11 17:45

I don't know that.

SPEAKER_09 17:47

Really?

SPEAKER_10 17:47

Yeah, they're crazy.

SPEAKER_09 17:49

I was about to say, how do you not know that?

SPEAKER_08 17:52

With Mijong Hong Kang? No. What's his name? It's Kim Jong.

SPEAKER_06 17:55

Oh.

SPEAKER_11 17:56

So Mijong Hong Hang.

SPEAKER_09 18:01

They have a a big uh issue over in North Korea as far as like Christianity is concerned. And they persecute anything related to being Christian. So there was an incident where an entire family was arrested simply for possessing a Bible. And the family's two-year-old child was sentenced to life imprisonment with their parents and being sent to a political prison.

SPEAKER_10 18:42

Wait a minute.

SPEAKER_09 18:46

So possession of the Bible, participation in prayer, or any form of Christian worship is treated as a crime against the state. Um and the North Korean regime views any allegiance to Christ as a threat and demands, you know, uh full support of their leadership. And this poor baby just happened to be attached to a family that owned a Bible. We gonna get a prison tattoo at three years old. They they like don't care if you're a child.

SPEAKER_11 19:28

She went in the mic, that is crazy.

SPEAKER_09 19:30

They just I'm not trying.

SPEAKER_11 19:32

Oh, that that's the secret. It's like the chocolate off the MM. God damn, that's what it sounds like. So inappropriate. Well, God bless them.

SPEAKER_08 19:52

Stop it.

SPEAKER_11 19:53

I keep them in my prayers.

SPEAKER_08 19:55

Well, who do they supposed to um worship Buddha?

SPEAKER_11 20:00

Maybe? Kim Jong-un. Seriously?

SPEAKER_08 20:03

Probably.

SPEAKER_06 20:04

He's crazy.

SPEAKER_11 20:05

He's a dictator.

SPEAKER_06 20:06

Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

SPEAKER_11 20:08

How many dictators do you know?

SPEAKER_06 20:10

I'm sorry?

SPEAKER_11 20:10

How many dictators do you know?

SPEAKER_09 20:15

What a such serious question. In 2025 or 2023? How many dictators do you know? Just the one.

SPEAKER_06 20:27

You actually know one?

SPEAKER_09 20:29

Oh. Really?

SPEAKER_11 20:30

Yeah. My household, I'm the dictator.

unknown 20:35

That's not what I said.

SPEAKER_09 20:38

I said, how many dictators you know?

SPEAKER_11 20:41

Dictators?

SPEAKER_09 20:42

Dictators.

SPEAKER_11 20:44

Oh, that's what you said. Just me. That's crazy. I walk right into that.

SPEAKER_09 20:53

Just you and your household. I'll be in my household. Oh my God. That's the truth. So set you free. Power bottoms go.

SPEAKER_08 21:07

Power bottoms unite.

SPEAKER_09 21:10

But I think it's just uh it makes you open your eyes to see how crazy people are. Even in our own lives, things that we experience as injustice or you know, like people have it way worse in other places.

SPEAKER_11 21:30

And you really gotta be thankful for like and I it the just the way things going in this country, I don't see that. Like I see that as a possibility. It's at some point it's gonna get there. Like we you can't fucking get down on your knees and pray anymore.

SPEAKER_08 21:47

No, they don't believe it or not, Christianity has such a big powerhouse in the US. It'd be all the other religions. What's wrong, Sean? Do you get down on your knees and pray often? Do you do Hail Mary's? No, not at all. I don't know.

SPEAKER_09 22:06

You don't use your knees.

Culture Jokes, Language Bits, And Levity

SPEAKER_11 22:07

I'm a um You're just a dick taken in the house. I'm a uh Buddhist, not a Buddhist. The bootyist. The bootiest. I worship uh booties? Booties. The gluteest Maximus.

SPEAKER_09 22:33

That's your leader.

SPEAKER_11 22:34

The glutiest. Lord gluteus.

SPEAKER_09 22:38

Lord gluteest Maximus. The third. The third.

SPEAKER_11 22:47

This is outrageous. Um yeah, prayers to the little boy. Well, the whole family, but yeah. But yeah, uh, that's that's fucked up.

SPEAKER_08 22:57

That's sad. Like, really, he can't even read. Uh like he probably looking around like what is going on.

SPEAKER_11 23:07

He said bibble, and it's like, you know the Bible. And bibble. He drew Jesus, and that's a damn shame. That is a damn shame.

SPEAKER_09 23:19

We're about to have a spike in North Korean listeners. Is that the boy right there? Yeah.

SPEAKER_11 23:23

Oh he's done. He is done. Yo, you know what they do to people in chat?

SPEAKER_08 23:32

That's people, not two-year-olds.

SPEAKER_11 23:34

That is crazy. He is a he's a criminal now. He has a criminal record now. That is fucked up.

SPEAKER_08 23:41

He ain't never getting out.

SPEAKER_11 23:42

That's what I'm saying. Like, he gotta live, he gotta grow up and live in an environment like that, man. They're gonna mold him into something crazy. Like, all he knows is gonna be jail. That is that's not fair to him. Do you think he already can't see what's coming? You drove so far off the jail.

SPEAKER_08 24:10

What where's the button? He drove his bus off the cliff.

SPEAKER_10 24:16

What button you looking for?

SPEAKER_04 24:19

Shut the fuck up.

SPEAKER_05 24:22

Yeah. In the windows to my soul.

SPEAKER_11 24:27

Shut no. I'm going to the new year saying what the fuck I want, Nosa. Reach the top? Oh shit. No, sir. Yeah, prayer uh thoughts and prayers to the fans. Why? Because he's Christian? They're gonna extend Jesus save them. He just wanna extend his it extend his sentences for prayers going into them.

SPEAKER_06 24:58

You know, he can't read.

SPEAKER_11 25:02

Okay. You know what? You you never know.

SPEAKER_08 25:05

They they they pretty good at He is running around that prison talking about APA.

SPEAKER_11 25:14

You call him Aang from Avatar?

SPEAKER_08 25:16

No, ain't that how they say dad?

SPEAKER_11 25:18

I don't know.

SPEAKER_08 25:21

I don't speak it.

SPEAKER_10 25:22

Oh, that is well they know math pretty well, so they can probably figure that's Japan. Oh.

SPEAKER_09 25:28

So APA is how you say dad in North Korean?

SPEAKER_08 25:32

I think so, yeah. Or Korean period. I watch a lot of shows. You looking it up?

SPEAKER_11 25:38

Yeah. Hey Siri. How do you say dad in North Korean? I can't translate into North Korean. Okay.

SPEAKER_08 25:52

Siri, stupid as hell, though.

SPEAKER_11 25:55

Alright, what's next?

Venus Williams’ Wedding And Legacy

SPEAKER_08 26:01

Well, let's give it up for you gonna be sad though. Venus Williams got married. Yes, congrats to Venus Williams for marrying Andre Pretti. That's my is that how you say it? Pretty?

SPEAKER_10 26:22

Is it P or Prety?

SPEAKER_08 26:25

Pre T.

SPEAKER_11 26:28

I had the biggest crush on Venus Williams when they was starting out when I when I was younger. That muscle face. She's cute to me. Oh wow, exactly. What? Congratulations to her.

SPEAKER_09 26:51

Yeah, congrats.

SPEAKER_08 26:52

Congratulations. Her or her sister like that, white meat.

SPEAKER_11 26:57

I mean what? I mean I had to finish that. Whatever, uh rub your boot, I guess. I ain't gonna y'all join any shit. Ain't Serena with like a dudes like a billionaire or something like that.

SPEAKER_08 27:15

Her husband? Yeah. I think so. Good for them.

SPEAKER_11 27:22

I'm not saying because they're billionaires or them, but good for them. They found love where they did it. They found love. As much scrutiny that they they changed the game of tennis. You understand? They they go they're going down in the history of like the two best tennis players in the world. Yeah. Yeah. And they used to get crucified.

SPEAKER_08 27:41

Especially with uh Venus having um her um, what is it, immune deficiency that she or whatever it is she has. They used to get crucified. She did tennis through all of that.

SPEAKER_11 27:54

So I'm so happy. I'm happy that they found happiness. Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 27:57

I'm I'm everybody deserves happiness. Good for them.

SPEAKER_09 28:00

They found love in a hopeless place. Good for them.

SPEAKER_06 28:03

We fell in love in a hopeless place. Wait, is that what she said in that song? Hopeless place.

SPEAKER_11 28:11

Seriously, is that what she said in that song?

SPEAKER_06 28:13

Yes.

SPEAKER_09 28:14

Oh shit. She said.

SPEAKER_08 28:17

Please, please enlighten us.

SPEAKER_09 28:18

She thought it said, We fell in love in a big Mac.

SPEAKER_11 28:24

I thought she said, I found love with a homeless man.

SPEAKER_08 28:28

Turn your mic off. Get the fuck out of here. Why would Rihanna? I don't even like that, don't even make sense. Make a song.

SPEAKER_11 28:35

That's what I said. It didn't even make sense to me. I was like, whatever.

SPEAKER_08 28:40

But it was Was that how you were singing along with it?

unknown 28:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 28:44

You just picture him in the car driving.

SPEAKER_07 28:46

Found love in a homeless man.

SPEAKER_08 28:50

Sir, that don't even sound right. I understand it.

SPEAKER_11 28:55

I understand it.

SPEAKER_08 28:56

Explain yourself.

SPEAKER_11 28:57

No, no. I don't. That's what I thought I heard. Really? I was like, good for them. Make a hit uh for the homeless.

unknown 29:05

Yes.

SPEAKER_11 29:09

It was like a David Gatter, so I thought it was like the house music. She was trying something new. And I was like.

SPEAKER_09 29:14

And so house music means that you I don't know, maybe.

SPEAKER_11 29:17

That you just, you know, find like this man. It wasn't her lane, so I figured so she somebody wrote that record and she was like, oh, I can sing it for the homeless theme song.

SPEAKER_09 29:27

Yo, get out of here.

SPEAKER_08 29:29

Why? Because they was in Los Angeles.

SPEAKER_11 29:31

They were?

SPEAKER_08 29:32

I don't know. Wow. So leave them alone. You ever been to Phoenix?

SPEAKER_09 29:40

You ever been to Georgia?

SPEAKER_08 29:43

I heard they're aggressive down there.

SPEAKER_09 29:45

Atlanta's full of them.

SPEAKER_11 29:46

Jeez.

SPEAKER_08 29:47

Baltimore too. But they get you right on that street, boy. Yeah, don't park your car. Park at the DR light.

SPEAKER_11 29:55

Shout out to all those places, by the way. If you ever come through, look out for us.

SPEAKER_09 29:59

Or don't.

SPEAKER_08 30:00

Or don't. Yeah, please don't. Or don't. People with money look out for us. Oh no. Yeah, yeah. Sponsorship. We don't got nothing to give y'all.

The 40-Year Parental Kidnapping Case

SPEAKER_09 30:09

So Deborah Newton was arrested.

SPEAKER_11 30:18

Who the fuck is Deborah Newton?

SPEAKER_08 30:19

He's about to tell you.

SPEAKER_11 30:21

Oh. She he said it like it was like somebody.

SPEAKER_08 30:24

I like how I skipped over that one though. I wanted that for you because I understand it. Oh my god. Yeah.

SPEAKER_09 30:30

So Debbie. Little Debbie. She uh went viral. Um after getting arrested for finally being located after 40 years from allegedly kidnapping her own daughter and moving from Kentucky to Georgia. So, and she was excuse me. She was using the alias Sharon.

SPEAKER_10 30:53

Let's try to escape. Yo.

SPEAKER_09 31:01

You need help. That's my last one for the new year, I swear. So back in 1983, Deborah disappeared with her daughter Michelle. She left her husband at the time, Joseph Newton, without a trace. So according to her husband, they had planned to move to Georgia as a family. Deborah decided to take the daughter down early, and Joseph was going to meet them down in Georgia. By the time he arrived in Georgia, she was gone. And so was his daughter. She ended up on the FBI's top eight most wanted list for parental kidnappings. Wait, is a thing called parental kidnapping?

SPEAKER_08 31:43

Yes. Oh shit. When you marry, y'all automatically have joint custody. You can't just decide to take your kids and go. Wow. Yeah.

SPEAKER_09 31:51

Oh, okay. And um Michelle was a missing person's case, and they ended up dropping it in 2000 after not finding her. Um, and then they no longer was able to reach the dad anymore either. So somehow, Crime Stoppers um they received a tip that led to Deborah's arrest after comparing the woman that identified in the tip to pictures from 1983.

SPEAKER_11 32:20

Who was keeping track since 1983? FBI. No, they said somebody called in the tip. Who remembers that?

SPEAKER_08 32:28

Like, is that that bitch from 1983? Double crime um warriors who be set focused on finding anything.

SPEAKER_09 32:37

And it came back to a 99.9% match, which that's how they proved that she was Deborah because she was gone by the name Sharon. Um and police ended up having to break the news to the daughter, Michelle, who's now a full-blown adult, um, and revealed that she was actually a missing person who was living under a different identity all those years. Um she don't know her real name. She do now. They finally was able to reunite her with her father. Oh, wow.

SPEAKER_08 33:08

So can I dig deeper into that? Because these are the questions. You got more to say? Why'd she leave? Husband was beating her ass. That's what that's what I was thinking. Because back in them days, that's how that shit was. And and it's like, what was the reason for leaving?

SPEAKER_09 33:23

Right. If y'all supposedly planned as a family to move from she said, this is my opportunity to get the hell up out of here. She gotta fuck out of there. That's that's all I thought about. And release that lady. The thing I find very interesting is how she managed to stay hidden for daughter for 40 years.

SPEAKER_11 33:45

Like Well, this is before technology and people could actually track you down. Not even. I think it's more so it wasn't a big crime, really. Um yeah, I mean, and then all she had to, it wasn't hard to change.

SPEAKER_08 33:58

Nobody gave a fuck except for that nosy ass goddamn kids. And their dog. Yes.

SPEAKER_09 34:04

So yeah, I mean, you know, just thinking about it, it took all the way until 2025 to find this woman. She, you know, she was probably seen out of the state.

SPEAKER_08 34:18

They didn't, they didn't, but that's my point.

SPEAKER_11 34:21

Like, she probably told somebody who was like, really?

SPEAKER_08 34:26

Whoever snitched thought they was getting a award a reward. Yeah.

SPEAKER_09 34:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 34:30

Surprise, bitch, you got nothing.

SPEAKER_09 34:32

And so I guess my thoughts about it, because I think that that I don't know what the situation was. Right. So I don't know what the scenario was, why she left. She could have been completely out of her mind.

SPEAKER_08 34:43

Or maybe the daddy needed DNA test.

SPEAKER_09 34:45

Um, so I don't know. At that point now, does she go to jail? Like, I don't think she should. Go into jail for? Don't that or if you're the father and you missed out on 40 years of your child, or you like locked that bitch up? Is that justified?

SPEAKER_11 35:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 35:05

I mean Unless that's not his kid and that's why she ran.

SPEAKER_11 35:09

She gotta be pushing 90 at this point, right?

SPEAKER_08 35:13

No.

unknown 35:14

No.

SPEAKER_11 35:15

When did she have? I mean, she didn't have the baby in 83, right? They don't say how old the daughter was, do it.

SPEAKER_09 35:21

No, it didn't say how old the baby the the daughter was at the time. Um so I'm not sure, but had to be enough.

SPEAKER_08 35:31

She didn't remember her damn daddy.

SPEAKER_09 35:33

I don't think she's 90. Yeah. I mean 80 or something. Maybe 60 something.

SPEAKER_08 35:38

Probably like our parents' age. Yeah.

SPEAKER_11 35:40

60, 70. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Yeah. I mean, what, five years in jail?

SPEAKER_08 35:45

She I don't even think she needs to go to jail. It's not even that damn serious. I mean, it is a serious, it is a serious crime, kidnapping. But I mean, if y'all ain't found her in 40 years, time served. Like look.

SPEAKER_10 35:58

Very true.

Swingers Site Meetup Turned Homicide

SPEAKER_08 35:59

All she has to deal with is the consequences of dealing with her daughter at this point. That's her, that's her punishment. Her daughter's gonna be mad as hell. Like, you kidnapped me. I didn't grow up with my dad, and now she can learn her father now before he croaks and find out he's probably a piece of shit anyway. Or maybe not. We never know.

SPEAKER_09 36:17

What if your husband took your baby and left and you didn't find them for 40 years?

SPEAKER_08 36:22

Would you just be like, I'd probably die of heartbreak. I ain't even gonna hold you. It's my babies.

SPEAKER_11 36:28

I was gonna actually use the same scenario, but what what if it you as a child to find out how that's not your real name? That's like what's deal.

SPEAKER_08 36:39

Yeah, that's devastating. Well, for me it would be depending on how the life was going. If it was a shitty life and then I found out like, oh, this shit is fucking fake.

SPEAKER_09 36:46

Bitch. Then you reunite reunited with your father who's a billionaire and living this luxury lifestyle with a new family.

SPEAKER_08 36:53

And my life still ain't over. I'm gonna be like, insert now. Be the best child he ever had. Or it could be a worse, worse scenario. Yeah, I'm that's what I'm saying. I was saying, well, she could go find her dad and find out he was a piece of shit. That's why the mother left in the first place. Yeah. Or that's not her dad. True. And that's why the mom left. Because she she's like, damn it, he's gonna kill me. We gotta go.

SPEAKER_09 37:14

That's wild though. It sounds like like one of those lifetime movies.

SPEAKER_08 37:18

Yeah. Yeah. Well, good luck. Yeah. That's crazy. That's sad, that's fucked up, but did y'all ever ask why? I just want to know why. Yeah. Why she did it.

SPEAKER_04 37:29

Why?

SPEAKER_08 37:30

If you did it just to do it.

SPEAKER_11 37:32

I don't know if that's the daughter saying that shit now.

SPEAKER_08 37:33

Like, why did you take me? The mother, the daughter probably the one that turned that ass in.

SPEAKER_11 37:38

Right. Yeah, because she probably had as hell.

SPEAKER_08 37:41

Like, bitch, this is my dad.

SPEAKER_11 37:42

What the f. She had a come to God moment. Let me tell you the truth. Yo, he she probably asked about her father for like 40 years.

SPEAKER_09 37:48

Where's dad? He's still at the milk. She probably just told her that her father was dead.

SPEAKER_11 37:53

Yeah, he's at he's still getting milk, baby.

SPEAKER_08 37:55

She wanted to do a DNA test or something and found out that he was still alive and who her daddy was, and her name wasn't what it was.

SPEAKER_09 38:01

Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah. I'd be really conflicted if I was the kid. I'd be really conflicted as an adult now. Like, damn. Depending on how your life was when you grew up.

SPEAKER_08 38:11

The crazy part is the mom probably always had intentions to tell her and just forgot.

SPEAKER_11 38:17

It just wasn't a priority. How you forget some shit like that? I stole you, bitch. And I just all right. Well.

SPEAKER_08 38:26

Yeah. Good luck to them. Not good luck. Let that lady go. Let her deal with the consequences of dealing with the husband and daughter.

SPEAKER_11 38:37

Alright, what's next?

SPEAKER_08 38:40

Very interesting story. So a man was fatally shot after having a threesome with his gun. He was what? Fatally shot. Why every time I didn't understand? I'm gonna just start passing the shit through. No, I didn't know.

SPEAKER_11 38:51

I didn't know what you said. So that's I just wanted to clarify. So I could follow you.

SPEAKER_08 38:56

Stop Latin the devil use you.

SPEAKER_11 38:58

I just wanted to know what you said.

SPEAKER_08 39:03

I just what? A man. A man was fatally shocked after having a theresim with his girlfriend and another mayon. So the shooting occurred on November 29th at the MAA Benton Department complex. During a court hearing Wednesday, investigators testified that a woman, her boyfriend, and another man identified. Wait, what? It was not a threesome.

SPEAKER_09 39:41

You missed the whole headline she read.

SPEAKER_08 39:43

That's not a threesome. Yes.

SPEAKER_11 39:45

That's not a threesome.

SPEAKER_08 39:46

That's a train. He don't listen. That's why he keeps interrupting me, talking about what happened. Wait, wait.

SPEAKER_11 39:51

No, I I didn't I didn't hear the word fatally. So I just wanted you to clarify. But that is not a threesome. That is a train. Shut up.

SPEAKER_08 40:01

We're not gonna go on. Yeah. You sound crazy. Um, you made me lose my spot. My God. Oh. Um, testified that a woman, her boyfriend, and another man identified as 40 year old Alfonso Warner had agreed to meet after connecting on the website SDC Swingers Lifestyle. Hello, what's that website? So you can get shot? Mm-hmm. It's in Georgia. An investigator told the court the woman had previously communicated with Warner through the site and knew him by name. She reportedly asked Warner if she could bring her boyfriend, 48-year-old Arthur Gaynor, to the meetup and he agreed. So they get they met up, and I guess Warner felt some type of way. Like he was being disrespected, but they don't say what. So I'm like, did he just do that just to shoot them? Because what was the disrespect? I'm confused. Um, and that's why he shot her boyfriend in the stomach that later died of his injuries. Like it's so weird. Like you shoot him and not her.

SPEAKER_06 41:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 41:13

And you just don't even really do anything. You just like waiting around wherever to get caught.

SPEAKER_09 41:19

Instead of running into Georgia.

SPEAKER_08 41:21

Yeah, like they they went and found him at a Red Roof Inn. So you just stayed there. You just stayed at a hotel, like, yeah, whatever. Come get me. Even Deborah.

SPEAKER_11 41:28

This shit real. This is a real fucking sight. But clearly, they motherfuckers got a bliss cruise.

SPEAKER_07 41:35

This is a real story.

SPEAKER_11 41:37

They got a bliss cruise. A what? SDC. They got a bliss cruise you could go on. Oh, a swingers cruise. Yeah, this is crazy. Those exist.

SPEAKER_08 41:45

Those aren't. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Swinger cruises exist.

SPEAKER_06 41:48

I've done them.

SPEAKER_08 41:55

I would say me too, but I've never been on a cruise. Um, you don't gotta be on a cruise. But it was a wild ride.

Florida Tragedy Over An NFL Game

SPEAKER_09 42:03

That's like this theme or fucking SD scene.

SPEAKER_11 42:09

You ain't gotta be on a cruise for a brow. So uh wild ride. Wow. Y'all always had troubles with my R's and W's.

SPEAKER_08 42:16

Let me let me live. So Warner was charged with murder and aggravated assault, but it's so many unanswered questions.

SPEAKER_09 42:23

Maybe he's fingering his back.

SPEAKER_08 42:25

But clearly, she said, Do you mind if my man comes? He was okay with it.

SPEAKER_11 42:31

Well, it's a swinger.

SPEAKER_09 42:32

Well, maybe when it started happening, he was like, She enjoying this a little too much. His dick is picking the mind.

SPEAKER_08 42:40

What, the add-on? Because the add-on, he got jealous of the boyfriend. Yeah. He wasn't even her being. That's true. Do say she knew his name.

SPEAKER_10 42:55

It's all a ploy. They didn't really use SDC.

SPEAKER_08 42:59

Right. They just came up with that shit.

SPEAKER_06 43:01

It's like, oh, I was on this site.

SPEAKER_08 43:06

I bet her boyfriend. She set her boyfriend up. That's crazy, though. Yeah.

SPEAKER_09 43:10

Why he fit so good?

SPEAKER_08 43:14

Hey, yo. I'm leaving. I wonder if they lost uh clients off of that uh site after this.

SPEAKER_11 43:25

Should call them.

SPEAKER_08 43:27

What?

SPEAKER_11 43:27

You should call them. Probably not.

SPEAKER_08 43:28

Why would I call them like, hey guys, requiring uh how many people you lost after this uh murder?

SPEAKER_11 43:34

None. People love swinging.

SPEAKER_08 43:38

Ain't nobody lost shit. Nixon pussy, they loving it. Oh. It's amazing. That's not McDonald's. Shut up. Oh my god. Take a pussy.

SPEAKER_09 43:55

Oh shit. That's nasty. Yuck. So I think it's only right that we, you know, end out the new year going back to Florida.

SPEAKER_08 44:05

We never left. So wait. Shout out to Florida though, because you have been table for three biggest topics.

SPEAKER_06 44:16

Keep them coming.

SPEAKER_11 44:18

Yo, that makes that makes me want to think. Go ahead. It makes you want to think. Makes me want to think of some um how many they actually listen down in Florida.

SPEAKER_09 44:30

Oh. So 47-year-old Jason Kenny ended his life hours after killing his wife and his stepdaughter Crystal on December 22nd. So they it turns out that there was an altercation between um Crystal and Jason about turning off the NFL game between the San Francisco 49ers and the Indianapolis Colts. So they had been drinking, things escalated, leading to Crystal to instruct her 12-year-old son to call 911. The boy ran to the neighbor's house after he heard the gunfire. And they found Crystal dead with the 13-year-old um girl who had been shot in the shoulder and face. But she's recovering in the hospital. Unfortunately, Crystal didn't make it. But all of this over oh, and then he ended up taking his life after um after killing her, all because of football. I think is it ever really that serious?

SPEAKER_08 45:53

Who don't go with their brother to call the police though? You just stand in there.

SPEAKER_09 45:59

Well she was shot. She was shot in the face.

SPEAKER_08 46:03

No, she wasn't shot yet when he said when she told the boy to go call the police.

SPEAKER_09 46:08

Oh, well, I mean like she didn't want to leave her mother.

SPEAKER_08 46:13

She was nosy.

SPEAKER_09 46:14

Not nosy. That's horrible.

SPEAKER_08 46:18

You would think the boy would go. I mean the girl would go on a boy stay to protect his mom.

SPEAKER_11 46:25

He was younger. By a year. So we got about eight places that listen to us in Florida. Really? Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 46:32

You really looked.

SPEAKER_04 46:33

I did. Wow.

SPEAKER_08 46:36

Tell your friends. Um that's crazy though. But how how do you think that's what I'm saying? Because I'm just thinking, like, how do you shoot a kid in the face is crazy to me?

SPEAKER_09 46:49

Well, one, they was drunk.

SPEAKER_08 46:51

That, yeah. But still.

SPEAKER_09 46:53

And emotions was raised, and he probably had money.

SPEAKER_11 46:55

He probably I was gonna say betting was probably involved. Because you you you're so emotionally invested, especially when you bet on a game.

SPEAKER_09 47:06

And then he probably followed Mr.'s Parlay picks.

SPEAKER_11 47:09

And sorry, got shot in fixed. Wait, did he survive?

SPEAKER_09 47:13

No, he killed himself.

SPEAKER_11 47:15

He killed himself?

SPEAKER_09 47:16

Yeah. It was a murder suicide. Wow.

SPEAKER_08 47:19

Because he realized what the fuck he did in that moment. Yeah. Out of rage. Yeah, we gotta do better, Florida. He probably was losing. I'm surprised he wasn't a Jaguar fan.

SPEAKER_11 47:28

Why the fuck are they watching 49ers?

SPEAKER_08 47:30

They didn't say that was his team. He could have just betted on it.

SPEAKER_11 47:35

Jaguars in the playoffs.

SPEAKER_08 47:37

Disrespect. Jesus Christ.

SPEAKER_11 47:39

49ers. Fuck that team. With old ass Philip Rivers.

SPEAKER_09 47:44

Right. Could have took a bullet for more.

unknown 47:47

Right?

SPEAKER_11 47:49

Killed yourself for the 49ers. I know.

SPEAKER_08 47:51

Should have died.

SPEAKER_11 47:52

They call them bang bang gang for a reason.

SPEAKER_08 47:55

Stop. Why are you agreeing with us?

SPEAKER_11 47:56

I mean, that's what they call them. They do.

SPEAKER_08 47:59

No, the shit that we're saying, you're not denying it.

SPEAKER_11 48:02

Oh.

SPEAKER_07 48:03

Turn your mic off. Oops. What the hell? What's wrong with you? Only person I know we go with in, and he's like, that nigga, who should have fucking took a shotgun. Like, okay.

SPEAKER_09 48:23

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_10 48:28

It's the end of the year.

SPEAKER_08 48:31

Stop it. Now she's trying to get your shit off. I can let it all out now.

SPEAKER_11 48:38

Yo, next year. I'ma be different.

SPEAKER_09 48:42

I'm going into 2026 with no regrets. Regrets.

SPEAKER_07 48:50

Give you a little taste of what I got to offer.

SPEAKER_08 48:52

Why I keep giving you that voice? I don't know. That's crazy. You're drunk. I just heard it.

SPEAKER_09 48:57

It should have been like James Dean or something.

SPEAKER_06 49:00

James Dean.

SPEAKER_08 49:02

Sounded more like Jimmy. Oh. Yeah. You don't care. Jimmy Dean sausage. I knew it.

SPEAKER_11 49:13

Some good ass sausage, man.

SPEAKER_08 49:15

It is. Jimmy Dean's. Yeah, I'm talking about the ones you buy in the store, though.

SPEAKER_11 49:21

Oh, you did my you did my thing.

SPEAKER_04 49:24

Oh.

SPEAKER_11 49:30

Somebody's learning.

SPEAKER_09 49:34

That's good. That's good.

SPEAKER_11 49:42

Y'all been waiting all goddamn year. To say. It was coming. It was coming.

SPEAKER_08 49:49

Oh my God. So back into the AI conversations that we've been having throughout the year. Let's go, AI. China just opened hospitals with no doctors inside, no physicians. Oh no. Why they say doctors and physicians, it's the same thing. Um, no nurses, no human diagnosis. You walk into a booth, get scanned, and an AI tells you what's wrong. It prescribes you medicine or sends you to the hospital in minutes. This isn't this isn't a pilot. They actually are doing this like right now. That's crazy. What do you think about that?

SPEAKER_09 50:23

What is it like an urgent care or like a walk-in?

SPEAKER_08 50:26

Is it a hospital?

SPEAKER_09 50:27

Basically. Yeah. I mean, it's like going to TSA.

SPEAKER_08 50:32

Like, no, so it's b yeah, so it's basically like a um So you good going. You know, you go to the emergency room and then you gotta um check you to see what triage. Yeah. So it's an AI triage, basically, yeah.

SPEAKER_11 50:45

Hell that sounds great. You know how fast things will move when you're in an emergency and you ain't gotta sit there for 18 fucking hours waiting for somebody to come see you, you just go in there and get scanned, and you find out what the fuck's wrong?

SPEAKER_09 50:57

That sounds wonderful. But then you go to the hospital if they send you to the hospital for something that they can't treat you with, and now you still gotta wait.

SPEAKER_11 51:07

Hey, at least I know what the fuck. I'm not dying at the I'm not dying at the moment.

SPEAKER_09 51:12

Depending that the AI diagnosed you correctly. Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 51:16

You go and they'd be like, the AI told me. And they'd be like, Where'd you get this information? They'd be like, WebMD, like what?

SPEAKER_11 51:23

Like, I sprained my ankle, you got colon cancer.

SPEAKER_08 51:26

Like, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_11 51:30

I I just wanted you to check my ankle, bitch.

SPEAKER_08 51:34

Because no, seriously, like, even when you go to the doctor's and they scan you, they still don't even know what the scan really means. Go in, you got gout.

SPEAKER_11 51:44

You're going blind in your left eye.

SPEAKER_06 51:46

Like, what? They told me I ain't had them out there.

SPEAKER_11 51:49

Right. And you're white. Like, what? My pigment's wrong.

SPEAKER_08 51:54

You're white.

SPEAKER_11 51:58

Like this is just dirt. Like, what the fuck?

SPEAKER_08 52:02

Yo. Damn. I don't know how I feel about that though. You wouldn't use it though?

SPEAKER_09 52:09

I don't know. All this doing is taking jobs away from people now.

SPEAKER_08 52:14

But here's my thing too. Like, I don't trust shit.

SPEAKER_09 52:19

Trust shit.

SPEAKER_08 52:20

Trust shit. No, I said trust shit. Because think about it. Like, they're scanning your whole everything with that information going.

SPEAKER_09 52:27

I'm just nervous about how an artificial intelligence is prescribing you medication. Is it? Or is it just seeing what you have?

SPEAKER_08 52:37

No, it says it prescribes you medication. Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_11 52:40

So yeah, if I have a cough, I can understand if they give me cough medicine, I know it's cough medicine. I'm like, all right, cool. Like, you gotta be have common sense. You don't really have to.

SPEAKER_08 52:50

Nah, you have people that is gonna like you saying all that, but if that thing actually tells you, you could be like, well, it says it is, and AI, I trust it, you're gonna be like, yeah, let me pop these deals.

SPEAKER_11 52:58

No, like you should know the medicine you're gonna take, right?

SPEAKER_08 53:01

Nobody knows the medicine that they're taking.

SPEAKER_11 53:04

Then you're an idiot.

SPEAKER_08 53:05

You know all your medicine you take in.

SPEAKER_11 53:06

No, what I'm saying, like what I'm saying is is like they prescribed you like eye drops or some shit, and you got like a fucking fever over 108, you're not gonna be like, oh, I'm gonna take the eye drops.

SPEAKER_08 53:18

You're gonna be like, I think I need something better than this for unless it's you got an eye infection of fever, they're gonna give you the eye drops to clear it out.

SPEAKER_11 53:25

That's wait, that you that could cause a fever?

SPEAKER_09 53:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_11 53:28

Oh, see it. So you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_09 53:30

You don't gotta let them prescribe the wrong type of drops because it's what I'm saying. Like cereal infections.

SPEAKER_11 53:35

You should know, like, hey, these drops don't work with me, or I'm allergic to amoxicillin, or something like that. No, you can't prescribe me amoxicillin. I can't take this. You should know like the type of stuff you could take and can't take.

SPEAKER_09 53:47

Well, right? Sometimes, but there could be medications that you've never taken in your life that you don't know. Yeah, but there could be a medication that is prescribed for an eye issue that doesn't actually address your specific eye issue. I'm sure they got your medical charts.

SPEAKER_08 54:06

You don't think they got your medical charts? Think about this. There's always different um viruses, bacteria, and all new types of shit that's coming up. So they could diagnose you with one thing, and technically it's not you know, it's not for what your issue is. Well, what I'm saying, the same way with the doctors.

SPEAKER_11 54:25

Are you saying they they're gonna do this without ha knowing your medical history? I mean, I'm sure they're not just gonna walk in and scan. They gotta have your medical history or ask you for insurance or try to get your medical history from a doctor.

SPEAKER_08 54:35

Like I get that, but what I'm saying is even still, you get diagnosed with something that can't even that's probably they don't even really know because it's something new. Right. So now they're like, oh, go home and take, you know, cough syrup, you'll be fine. But it's a whole different, bigger issue.

SPEAKER_11 54:52

You do have an option to get a second opinion. So if you just go home and take the shit.

SPEAKER_08 54:57

So my thing is basically just go to the damn doctor. Right. I mean, either or I mean So I don't know. That's why that's the thing with the whole air. Oh, I don't know. I'll give it a try. So it's so to go deeper in it. It says you step inside the booth, the system scans your body, vital signs, temperature, heart rate, blood, oxygen, facial, and visual cues, all in minutes. Um, your input, you input your symptoms. So you're basically telling them what your problems are. Which that's so it's scanning you doesn't mean Google Doctor.

SPEAKER_11 55:30

So well, I mean, I got a headache. It's saying like I got a headache, uh I got a f may have a fever, I got a fever.

SPEAKER_08 55:37

Well, it's taking your temperature and so you tell them like those type of things, and it would create So it says, so you input your symptoms, the AI analyzes the data, runs diagnostic models, identifies common illnesses, decides the next steps. No human review required.

SPEAKER_04 55:56

Oh.

SPEAKER_08 55:58

So within minutes, you get a diagnosis, a treatment recommendation, an instant prescription, or a referral to a hospital if needed. Fast, direct, automated. So um, so it says each kiosk includes automated drug dispensers, which is crazy because now you're gonna have all these drug addicts coming in and talking about this is my symptoms to get drugs. I'm sure there's restrictions for over-the-counter medications, not if they sit in there saying what Yeah, if I go in and say that I'm having a severe migraine, I'm sure they're not. Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something that I've learned.

SPEAKER_09 56:31

Well, if I go in saying I have a severe migraine and they prescribe me this migraine medication that I am addicted to because there's certain medications for migraines that are narcotics and that people are actually addicted to.

SPEAKER_08 56:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_11 56:54

But you're not a you're not a uh because you got insurance, you you can do all that, but I'm saying like nobody just random.

SPEAKER_08 57:03

So it says this kiosks aren't in labs, they're placed in metro stations, shopping centers, office hubs, rural and underserved areas. So technically underserved areas, most of these people probably don't even have insurance. Right.

SPEAKER_11 57:16

So I gotta see how like I don't know how actually like how the process works as far as if you need insurance, you got insurance. I'm sure it's not going to just deal out drugs to any random person.

SPEAKER_08 57:30

I I understand what they're doing. It's cutting out emergency room. Well, not really. It's cutting out urgent care visits and people making like I was just talking about this the other day.

SPEAKER_09 57:42

Because that's backwards, because the reason that they created urgent cares was the emergency room usage because people overuse the emergency room as doctors. For small things, yeah. That's not what it's meant for.

SPEAKER_04 57:55

Yep.

SPEAKER_09 57:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_11 58:00

I don't know. My last my last uh emergency room visit, I didn't like. I didn't like it. I don't I didn't it it's just it was just a painstaking process, and I was with my child, and I wanted to find out what was wrong if if something serious has to happen, because he had a concussion. I'd never been in a concussion before. I never knew what happens with a concussion. That you're dealing with somebody's brain, you know what I'm saying? And they just had him sitting there. So like if I could get to some, I I need fast answers. I need something we can I can do something with quickly. An emergency room supposed to do that, but I like you said it's overcrowded with minor small stuff, and it's like I don't think that as far as like a concussion protocol, I get it.

SPEAKER_08 58:50

I can't hear you. Sorry. As far as a concussion protocol with like, would you really consider going to a AI kiosk though?

SPEAKER_11 59:00

Yeah. I would uh they can scan you, get all your vital signs, get all the stuff like they did in the hospital immediately, and then and then give you uh uh uh at least uh uh at least some kind of result saying, hey, this is your next step.

SPEAKER_08 59:16

Right. So then they send you to the hospital, you go to the hospital and you're still waiting.

SPEAKER_11 59:19

I'm not in an emergency room.

SPEAKER_08 59:23

You would be, because that's where you would go. You're not gonna go directly to the hospital. Yeah, yeah, they send you to the hospital, you give them what they're gonna do. Yeah, but I don't know if it's and they're gonna make you wait either way. We don't know that. If they're understaffed, they're gonna make you wait.

SPEAKER_11 59:35

This is supposed to help move things along, right? So I we don't know if it's gonna you're gonna get there.

SPEAKER_08 59:40

It helps to move things along. It's in areas where it's not uh ready available health care. Yes, yeah. That's that's what it is.

SPEAKER_11 59:54

Oh, I'm I'm with it. So I'm with it. I I I I I wanna see how the process works. I would rather I you know, I don't really know how it works just by that.

SPEAKER_08 1:00:04

I'm not technically knocking it or nothing. I'm just saying, like, it's just weird to me.

SPEAKER_11 1:00:09

It's new, it's gonna be weird to anybody.

SPEAKER_09 1:00:11

I'm just nervous because healthcare in itself is a very tricky uh realm to be in. And you're automatically a guinea pig anyway when you're dealing with healthcare. Now you're dealing with An artificial healthcare professional. Like if a woman went into that thing because they was having chest pains, that AI is going to now ask whatever questions or do whatever scan and um prescribe them something that it thinks going on.

SPEAKER_11 1:00:47

It may not prescribe them anything.

SPEAKER_09 1:00:49

But the AI is not necessarily gonna know that for women when you're having chest pains, it could be gas or it could be a heart attack. It could it's different. AI could probably decipher that. It probably could we don't know AI gonna say you got gas.

SPEAKER_11 1:01:07

It could probably decipher that. If it's gonna go through and and analyze certain symptoms and certain things, because you gotta tell it certain things. You gotta give it information. Right. And it's gonna ask you deeper questions because it's gonna probably ask you questions to kind of get to the bottom, like just like a doctor would do. A doctor, you would you could say you have chest pains to a doctor and they will have follow-up questions to find out what type of chest pains. I'm sure that's what the AI would do.

SPEAKER_08 1:01:36

Okay, but chest pains, they just automatically strap you to a machine. Yes.

unknown 1:01:40

Right.

Remembering Carl Carlton

SPEAKER_08 1:01:41

They don't ask you shit. So they ask you why you're on the machine, but not before. Yeah, but after they they strap you in. I'm not going to no kiosk with no chest pains. I'm gonna say that. That's that would that's just crazy.

SPEAKER_11 1:01:54

Right.

SPEAKER_09 1:01:54

I'm not I would I wouldn't say you should have to, but some people can. If you're in an underserved population and this is the closest. Some people who don't understand that. Right.

SPEAKER_08 1:02:04

It's not saying that AI isn't gonna be efficient with what they're doing. It's just it's a lot of people are uncomfortable with news. It's a lot of shaky stuff. So it's like, okay, just make the awareness of like this isn't because some people will be like, oh, this is great. This is all I have to do. This is not the one-stop shop. Right. Right. Correct. That's that's the thing with me, with the AI thing. And some people don't look at it that way.

SPEAKER_09 1:02:28

Right. People go to school for years for this stuff.

SPEAKER_11 1:02:32

And they still probably are horrible. They're horrible doctors who've been going to school for years. You probably give it away. It's horrible everything. Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 1:02:39

You have horrible AI, horrible people, horrible whatever. So the point is.

SPEAKER_11 1:02:43

And there's probably good doctors and probably good AI. No, we know that.

SPEAKER_08 1:02:46

That's my point.

SPEAKER_11 1:02:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 1:02:49

Like they're making it seem like, oh, this is like it. Like, no.

SPEAKER_09 1:02:55

Because some people a lot of people are going to be able to do that.

Who You Got: Brandy, Monica, Aaliyah

SPEAKER_08 1:02:57

Yeah, that's an it's just always everybody needs to be cautious. I'm not denying it. I'm just putting my opinion out there to people who are going to think like, oh, this is like you said, good one-stop shop. No, be aware.

SPEAKER_11 1:03:10

So this is where where is this again?

SPEAKER_08 1:03:12

Is this in China?

SPEAKER_11 1:03:14

And this is actually up open and um functioning.

SPEAKER_08 1:03:17

Yes. They said it is live, this is live healthcare, like right now. Yeah.

SPEAKER_11 1:03:22

I want to follow that. I want to follow that story.

SPEAKER_09 1:03:23

I was very curious how an AI can prescribe you a prescription.

SPEAKER_08 1:03:30

Yeah. And it runs 24-7, they say.

SPEAKER_11 1:03:32

I I'll I'm I'll I want to do some research. I gotta do some research. I want to do some research. And then the next episode I'm I want to get a little bit deeper. I want to see how that works.

SPEAKER_09 1:03:40

Like what mechanisms are in place that approves an artificial intelligence to prescribe medication. You know, surveys that doctors give you, they probably do stuff like that. No, that's not what I mean. There are regulations, there are laws. There you have to be a certain type of provider to be able to prescribe medication.

SPEAKER_11 1:03:59

Or or it's just probably prescribing you something over the counter, something like that.

SPEAKER_09 1:04:03

Something like not like you got which those um That's no different than you going and the nurse prescribing you cough medicine.

SPEAKER_11 1:04:13

Right.

SPEAKER_09 1:04:13

They can't.

SPEAKER_11 1:04:16

A doctor would have to do that.

SPEAKER_09 1:04:17

Correct. So how is an artificial program gonna do it? And that be legal.

SPEAKER_11 1:04:22

It's legal over there.

SPEAKER_09 1:04:24

That's what I'm saying. That's a bit scary. But that's China. They they that's China. They do things. I mean, uh I don't know. Uh that's a bit scary to me.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 1:04:34

I guess it works for them because they overpopulated anyway.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:37

Home rulers.

SPEAKER_08 1:04:39

Yes. What is that supposed to be? Population control? Well, China's been doing population control for years. It's in history. It is.

SPEAKER_11 1:04:55

History stated it they didn't do it the the humane way back then.

SPEAKER_08 1:05:00

Yeah, so now it makes so now it makes you wonder about prescribe where the hell you won't.

SPEAKER_11 1:05:10

Oh shit. Not in Ho Xing Ming. Oh my god. Stop it. What they listen.

SPEAKER_08 1:05:15

Into your information. I have been dealing with this chronic pain, and I need to end it. Prescription prescribed.

SPEAKER_11 1:05:26

I'm sure it doesn't work like that. We don't know. Well, you can't assume that way. You can't assume that way either. Like I can. That's putting a narrative out there as if it doesn't work properly. We don't know.

SPEAKER_08 1:05:38

I know that. So like So I'ma still say what I want to say.

SPEAKER_11 1:05:43

And I'm just saying what I'm saying. I'm not either. I'm just saying. You're putting your opinion out there, and I'm just counteracting with my opinion. That's it. That's all I'm doing.

SPEAKER_09 1:05:54

Discretic, man. Well, good luck to them. I'm just saying.

SPEAKER_08 1:06:02

Yeah, I just thought that was a good thing.

SPEAKER_09 1:06:04

I think the world is getting a little too comfortable, a little too quickly with this AI shit. Is it quickly? Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_11 1:06:11

AI's been around for a while.

SPEAKER_09 1:06:13

Not this. Oh, the hospital type. The way that it has progressed into other areas of but you ain't see this coming. You ain't see this coming at all.

SPEAKER_11 1:06:25

Like it's it was it was destined to get there.

SPEAKER_09 1:06:29

Only because people are lazy. Wally. I mean, really. But um can we do a quick uh moment of silence for uh Carl Carlton, RB singer?

SPEAKER_07 1:06:44

Why did you let him finish? I didn't even throw it again.

SPEAKER_11 1:06:52

Like that's crazy a follow-up too. Wait, wait, wait, then it was a crazy follow-up to the AI thing. Like, that's crazy. We get above it. Like the the the the next the next segment is like death. Death right after the that is crazy.

SPEAKER_09 1:07:12

Because he went to an AI machine. So um That's where I went.

SPEAKER_11 1:07:17

That's why I said that.

SPEAKER_09 1:07:18

Carl Carlton recently just passed.

SPEAKER_11 1:07:20

Wait, his name is Carl Carlton.

SPEAKER_09 1:07:22

Yeah. At the age of 73. Yeah. Um, if you don't recognize who he is, he's the um RB and Funk um artist that made the song Um She's a Bad Mama Jamma.

SPEAKER_08 1:07:33

I always thought that was Stevie one day.

SPEAKER_09 1:07:35

Wait, what?

SPEAKER_01 1:07:36

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_11 1:07:37

I always thought that was. Carl Carlton wrote that record. Holy shit. I thought that was Stevie too. She's a bad man. That one, right? Mm-hmm. Get the fuck out of here.

SPEAKER_08 1:07:49

Just as fine. She can be. I I literally thought that was Stevie.

SPEAKER_10 1:07:55

Nah, get the fuck out of here. That's crazy. Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_09 1:08:00

So we gotta.

SPEAKER_11 1:08:05

This is not Stevie. I thought it was.

SPEAKER_09 1:08:12

Maybe Stevie did a instrument.

SPEAKER_11 1:08:16

Yo, he put he probably did.

SPEAKER_08 1:08:22

Maybe he did. Oh, this is a bad man of a demonic.

SPEAKER_11 1:08:30

Oh, he must be the writer. Or he must be the water.

SPEAKER_08 1:08:32

He's a singer.

SPEAKER_11 1:08:34

No, I'm saying, like he wrote he wrote it and sung it. Yeah, yeah. This is the original. He did Stevie did. Stevie did a stuff cover.

SPEAKER_09 1:08:43

Which is funny how you see how that works with the where You don't know the original? The original doesn't make it as big as look at that part.

SPEAKER_11 1:08:56

Get the fuck out of here.

SPEAKER_08 1:09:01

Oh wait. She's a bad manager. I do think Stevie did do a cover. Yes. Yeah. Because he ain't singing like how I heard it. Right.

SPEAKER_09 1:09:12

Yeah. Stevie had a little more um twang. So we got a Who You Got.

SPEAKER_08 1:09:20

Who the fuck you gang? Okay.

SPEAKER_09 1:09:25

So we have three artists.

unknown 1:09:27

Three.

SPEAKER_09 1:09:28

In the RB world. In the RB world. We have Brandy. Brandy. We have Monica. Monica. And we have Aaliyah.

SPEAKER_06 1:09:35

Aliyah.

SPEAKER_09 1:09:36

And we have their first three albums of each artist. And who had the best three album run? So you have Brandy with her um Stevie did not do any of the uh cover for the song.

SPEAKER_08 1:09:58

That was that was on him. Get out of here.

SPEAKER_09 1:10:01

He sounded so close to Stevie.

SPEAKER_08 1:10:03

I know.

SPEAKER_10 1:10:05

Holy shit.

SPEAKER_08 1:10:06

Really? Not a remix with him at all? Nothing?

SPEAKER_10 1:10:09

Nothing.

SPEAKER_08 1:10:09

Jeez. That's wow.

SPEAKER_10 1:10:11

Okay. Alright, sorry.

SPEAKER_08 1:10:13

Wow.

SPEAKER_10 1:10:14

Alright, so we have a uh That's interesting.

SPEAKER_08 1:10:16

That is very, very interesting. Yeah. Because I could have sworn that was Stevie.

SPEAKER_09 1:10:21

Yeah. That that's wow. It wasn't Stevie. It was Stevie.

SPEAKER_08 1:10:27

It was Carl Stevie Carlton. Alright, back to who the hell you got.

SPEAKER_09 1:10:37

So you got Brandy. I don't know if you was listening, Mr. But um so we got Brandy, Monica, and Aaliyah.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:46

Brandy, Monica, and Aaliyah. Okay.

SPEAKER_09 1:10:48

They're each of them, their first three um albums, who had the greatest three album streak when they um first dropped. So we have Brandy's first album, which was entitled Brandy. And then Never Say Never, and then Full Moon. And then we have Monica's first three, which was Monica. It was um The Boy Is Mine was the second one. And then After the Storm was the third. Yeah, it's not fake out. And then Aaliyah, we have AJ Nothing But a Number. She made it to three albums. One in a Million. Yeah. And Aaliyah was her last album. Yeah, it's always self-named. Aaliyah was the best album.

SPEAKER_08 1:11:36

Who had the best three albums streak coming? That's a hard fucking thing. And and the only reason why for me, because for each artist, I know who y'all. No, no, no, no, no. So two of the albums, I can say, yes, I know them shits front to back on each uh artist. And then one of those albums ain't it for me. So like I'll go with Brandy, right? I know who's not on y'all list. So Brandy, Brandy, um, self-titled in Full Moon, right? And some songs on the middle one. Not all, not the whole album for me. Okay. And then Monica's first album wasn't just some songs on there for me.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:25

That shows fly to me.

SPEAKER_08 1:12:26

I knew age ain't nothing but a number. We all did when Aaliyah first came out. But that wasn't a hot album for me. Um, but Aaliyah and One in a Million was was the album. But if I'm gonna pick anybody and I'm gonna be very, very biased. This album's gonna be by.

SPEAKER_11 1:12:45

Monica. I I knew that was I knew Aaliyah wasn't gonna make it, and Brandy wasn't gonna make it.

SPEAKER_08 1:12:51

I don't don't mess with me because I teetered back and forth between Monica and Brandy because remember, I was a Brandy fan way before I was Monica.

SPEAKER_11 1:12:59

Brandy had a three-year three album. I I liked hers.

SPEAKER_09 1:13:03

Yeah, I I'm really torn with this.

SPEAKER_11 1:13:06

Me too. Because I like Brandy and I like Monica's first album.

SPEAKER_09 1:13:10

Brandy's first album for me? Shit was fire. You know that from front to back. Shit is fire.

SPEAKER_08 1:13:14

I could probably do that album with Album.

SPEAKER_09 1:13:16

Shit is fire. Yeah. Now I have to agree with Nene, because Monica's first album, I do know all of the songs, but I like the entire albums of her second and her third album. Yep. Those were both fire for me. So it makes it look difficult. It's a tie between the big thing. If I said you teeter between and I have the two of them. Which one I listen to more?

SPEAKER_01 1:13:45

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_08 1:13:47

And you know it for me? It's Monica. Yeah.

SPEAKER_09 1:13:49

You listen to that way more.

SPEAKER_08 1:13:50

So I I listen to Monica and Brandy equally. I do. And the only reason why is because Brandy's first album is my shit.

SPEAKER_09 1:14:01

From Would you say you listen to every Brandy song on each of those albums? On her album.

SPEAKER_08 1:14:06

The same as Monica? Her self-titled the Brandy, her first album? Yes. Her first album is After the Storm for Me. The uh full moon album? No. No. No.

unknown 1:14:18

No.

SPEAKER_08 1:14:19

Like, I've listened to that whole album and I like it, but the only album I will play Brandy's front to back is her first album. Yeah.

SPEAKER_11 1:14:31

I started one with Aaliyah. No, I started I started as a Brandy fan. I listened to Brandy's first album, like front to back. I was I was really into RB back then. Like really. And then Monica came out and I was like, this bitch can sang. Like she could she could blow. Yeah. After those albums, I didn't listen to their album ever again. Uh huh. So to me, it's it's the self-named album, and which one was better to me? Brandy.

SPEAKER_09 1:15:01

Okay.

SPEAKER_11 1:15:02

If I have to compare their first first albums, I'm giving it to Brandy. Okay. If I I I I can't do a three-album run because three album run, full moon is fire. I play a lot of records off that. Uh I think I stopped listening to Monica after The Boy is Mine, and I really didn't listen to the album.

SPEAKER_08 1:15:23

That's when them albums got real fire. Yeah. I'm sorry. After the storm took me.

SPEAKER_11 1:15:27

I can't I can't get on the Monica train because I I stopped listening to Monica albums. I listened to her records.

SPEAKER_09 1:15:35

Monica's Boy is Mine album had so many hits off that album. You had The First Night, you had Cross the Room, you had Um Street Symphony, you had Um Missy was all over that, right? Missy was all over that. Um The one with 112.

SPEAKER_08 1:15:55

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. What was the name of that?

SPEAKER_09 1:15:58

Um my God.

SPEAKER_08 1:16:00

What's the name of that one?

SPEAKER_09 1:16:01

Mm-hmm. Then you got For You I Will. You got Um Like She had Bangers. I mean, The Boy's Mind was on that album. That was the Grammy winning song for her.

SPEAKER_08 1:16:13

But that's when it started. Like for me, that's when Monica picked up. I noticed Monica. I was like, oh, who this bitch? Like, okay, okay. But then when after the storm came out, it was a rap. Now, I will say this. If Aaliyah was still alive and the her self-acclaim took off and she kept making shit like this, what? Then it would it would have definitely been uh uh a real questionable thing for me as who who I really fucking rocked with.

SPEAKER_09 1:16:44

Yeah, Aaliyah's self-name album. That shit was fire. Yeah, yeah. I still listen to that shit. I do too. I do too. Yeah. That was a hard one for me though.

SPEAKER_08 1:16:55

Yeah. They picked the right three people.

SPEAKER_09 1:16:59

Because I really was leaning towards um heavily on Brandy. Me too.

SPEAKER_08 1:17:04

Me too.

Diddy, Power, And Industry Reckonings

SPEAKER_11 1:17:04

And then I had to think about it like when it when this came out, when this shit came out, I ain't never listened to her albums, but this shit was fire. Four-page letter. Come on now. Anyway.

SPEAKER_08 1:17:19

But if you really think about it though, like that first album of Elias, although it was like new, if you Timbalyn was just if you go back and listen to it. Fire. Nah.

SPEAKER_11 1:17:29

I think so.

SPEAKER_08 1:17:30

Nah.

SPEAKER_11 1:17:30

That's that's when Timbalyn was just st just starting. He came, he was coming out with sounds, never nobody ever heard of.

SPEAKER_08 1:17:37

The AJ Nothing But a Number album or One in a Million.

SPEAKER_11 1:17:42

One in a Million.

SPEAKER_08 1:17:42

Oh no, I'm talking about AJ Nothing But a Number.

SPEAKER_11 1:17:45

Her first one?

SPEAKER_08 1:17:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_11 1:17:46

Uh uh.

SPEAKER_08 1:17:46

You go back and listen to that one, you'd be like, This is what I like? Like, it's still cut the main songs that you know off of that album. But no, she kicked up from One in a Million go, and then when she did her self-acclaimed one, that shit was fire. Yeah.

SPEAKER_09 1:18:00

Like, I'm sorry. When Monica redid Misty.

SPEAKER_11 1:18:03

Y'all can't do the Who You Got with Monica. Y'all gotta stop doing Who You Got with Monica.

SPEAKER_09 1:18:07

I didn't do it. I didn't put it together.

SPEAKER_11 1:18:09

Yeah, you keep finding the Who You Got with Monica. With Monica and We already know y'all gonna pick Monica.

SPEAKER_08 1:18:16

Not true, because I really was about to pick Brandy because But you didn't. No, because two of your body is. No, two of Monica's album. I honestly was about to go with Aaliyah, but then remembering age ain't nothing but a number threw me off. And I was like, well, I ain't really I know the songs on there, but I wouldn't say that that's my fucking album. So that's why I didn't go with her. But I was literally like, Aaliyah was a shit. Aaliyah was a shit. I was upset when she died.

SPEAKER_09 1:18:43

I had to think of one who I listened to more in rotation, because I listened to both Brandy and Monica in rotation heavily, but I also had to put in there for me that really decided it was how many of the songs from those albums of each of them. Would you really listen to? And I could actually sing word for word. And I can do that with both of those Monica albums, and I can do that for the majority of the full moon and the majority of the first Brandy. But there's a couple songs I don't know like that word for word.

SPEAKER_08 1:19:25

Let me tell you something. That first brandy album, and I'm surprised I didn't pick Bandy, but only Brandy.

SPEAKER_11 1:19:46

Like if you would crazy if you would have came with like with uh who got who you got with like a male solo group from back then, like a Joe to see Drew Hill or like a 112 or uh I don't know, N Sync or something.

SPEAKER_08 1:20:01

Can InSync even be in that kind of group? It would be for him, it wouldn't be for me.

SPEAKER_09 1:20:04

So NSYNC will be pop though, yeah.

SPEAKER_11 1:20:06

Yeah so Joe Joe to see Drew Hill and whatever other and 112. If you put three albums back to back to back, who would get it? Joe Dice for me. Joe Dicey. Joe Dice had that shit locked down. It'll be Joe Dice for me. Oh my god. All three of the first albums. They knocked it out of the car. And you know. Wait, was it them? Who? What group did Diddy help put on? What male group was it?

SPEAKER_08 1:20:38

It was Jodice, I thought.

SPEAKER_11 1:20:39

Was it Jodice? No, it wasn't Jodice. No, it wasn't Jodice. It wasn't? No, the the the male from the documentary. What group was it?

SPEAKER_08 1:20:50

You sure it wasn't because it wasn't Joe C messes, he did with Mary. That's how he found Mary, ain't it?

SPEAKER_11 1:20:56

It was Jodice.

SPEAKER_08 1:20:57

Yeah, because she was their backup singer.

SPEAKER_09 1:20:59

Why I keep confusing them with um What's that other group? No way. I don't remember it being Jodice. Me neither.

SPEAKER_08 1:21:09

In the doc, right? Nah, was it? Now y'all gonna make me second guess myself and go back and look. But I could have sworn it was Jodice. I could have sworn. I could have sworn it was Jodice, but I could be wrong. That was one of their first groups that he signed.

SPEAKER_11 1:21:26

Because we was like, he got married, Mary J, and then we was like, oh, we see why they were so close, because there was it was it had to be Jodice.

SPEAKER_08 1:21:35

Thank you, because he told them how to dress.

SPEAKER_11 1:21:37

Yeah. Yeah. We wat I I just watched the second episode.

SPEAKER_09 1:21:43

Oh, did you?

SPEAKER_11 1:21:44

Yeah, it I gotta take those in like spurts. Yeah. I can't I can't watch all those episodes because that second episode was a lot of it. I I don't mean to go off in a tangent here, but look.

SPEAKER_08 1:21:57

That we a podcast, we do whatever the fuck we want.

SPEAKER_11 1:21:59

Yo the way things was explained. At first I was like, oh, that's an opinion. You can't really say that. That's an opinion. You think you thought all that stuff. Like you saying the shit that you're saying about Diddy back then and the way you're forming it, it's it's it's an opinion. It's not fact. You're not saying any fact. However, when the FBI people got into it, and I don't even know if that was a real FBI agent, and but I remember the hip-hop task force. I remember there was a thing about that. As a matter of fact, Dave Chappelle just talked about it in his new special. But I remember hearing about a hip hop task force that was put into place before uh the East Coast, West Coast, Diddy and Allemagne, and it was looking into Diddy. So when he was talking, and then they had actual film of people's how things was lining up with factual footage and audio, and well, who knows? It could be doctor, I don't know. But just how things just started falling and how he used his death, Biggie's death, to launch his artistry. And and I when I was a kid and I seen him on the stage doing the the the farewell and song about Biggie, and I was like, I I didn't understand it then. Like, why is he doing it? He just died.

SPEAKER_08 1:23:24

Why are you dancing on stage and saying like he was celebrating, like there was no empathy, no, no nothing.

SPEAKER_11 1:23:31

Like and dude, Keefe D was on tape saying that he fucking got paid half a million dollars from Diddy to take them niggas out, yeah. Which everybody speculated, but to hear it from his voice, and then he kind of recanted, whatever, because he tried to because he won't get killed, but he said he knew it. And it was like, holy shit, and just how everything lined up, it was like, now it makes sense. I'm not of course I still don't know what happened, but separating the fact from the opinions, the facts line up. There seemed to be more fact than opinion. Yeah, yeah. Well, yeah, well, what I'm what I mean is by what certain people were saying certain things. I think they did that on purpose to try to drown out a little bit of the fact. But maybe when you when you cipher through all the bullshit and hear the facts and see the facts and kind of see how things line up and then relive the relive what you've been like going through back in the day, like when I was happened, it is like holy shit.

SPEAKER_09 1:24:34

Yeah, because listening to a lot of the people that was interviewed, and I was trying to decipher, like, okay, how many of y'all just really talking shit? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, like your day now because you hate the movie.

SPEAKER_08 1:24:48

Did you feel that way about Tupac Cousin? Because it was almost for me when I watched it, I almost was like, we really didn't need your your input at all. Like you just like not that a not that a lot of people.

SPEAKER_09 1:25:06

He might not be telling the truth and stuff right or or embellished, but I just believe that a lot of that is it's factual.

SPEAKER_11 1:25:15

It was just like y'all, y'all ain't believe us when we were saying it.

SPEAKER_08 1:25:18

I believe the dude, who was the dude that was working with him and he said he got fired because he wouldn't change the document. Yeah, yeah. I believe him. Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:25:26

He seemed everybody, right?

SPEAKER_11 1:25:29

100%. He's like, he seems like the why would I even have to lie about this shit? Like, I I was a part of it. I had 25% stake in this, and I had to give it up. Right. And it's like, you could have said no, that was your boy, but back then, it's believable that you could go in these record companies with bats.

SPEAKER_08 1:25:46

Did y'all become a big thing? Ice Cube did that shit. Y'all see the body language of everybody, though.

unknown 1:25:51

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_08 1:25:51

When they do the actual footage of Diddy and the people around him and stuff, even Biggie was uncomfortable around him. Yo, there was an interview that was Mary on stage. There was an interview. Yo. You saw how stiff and just uncomfortable everybody looked. Why Mary look like that? Like, just like, no, I don't want to be here, nigga. You made me be here.

SPEAKER_11 1:26:11

Hey, yo, when I first seen, when I seen the original footage of Biggie sitting there saying, yo, I feel like people were out to get me. I feel like, you know, like people are out here trying to kill me. Right? And I'm thinking when I first seen it originally, when I first seen it when I was a kid, I was like, damn, this East Coast, West Coast shit is crazy. Uh-huh. And I just thought it was like because he's in the West, like, why even out in Cali type of shit, to realize he wasn't talking about them.

unknown 1:26:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_11 1:26:38

He was talking about Diddy.

SPEAKER_08 1:26:39

You know what's funny in that sense. That's my opinion.

SPEAKER_11 1:26:42

That's my opinion. But when they played. He was talking about his circle. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 1:26:46

That's what I was gonna say. When they played that clip back then, I was thinking Diddy.

SPEAKER_09 1:26:51

Really?

SPEAKER_08 1:26:52

It was I remember I told y'all before it was just something about him I just didn't like, something just off. I've never liked Puff Daddy, P. Diddy, Brother Love, nothing. Something about him just was always off. And I just be like, why niggas want to work for this nigga?

SPEAKER_11 1:27:05

Like it was a running joke. It was weird. It was a running joke when I was doing music. It's like, yo, we we'll sign with anybody but Diddy.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:12

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_11 1:27:13

Because it's almost like we already know what that is. Because nobody, we like everybody outside, kind of felt like his artist wasn't getting paid anyway. Like wasn't. So to find out that shit was true, yeah, and how he was changing the game and not and and it makes sense now that Suge Knight goes up there, is like, if you don't want your executive producer all in the videos, and I was like, yo, that's you hating, but now it's like, oh I mean, the simple fact that we had suspicions.

SPEAKER_09 1:27:43

So if you think of like 13. If you think of before back then when we're that age, and we had suspicions of things, but we didn't have an inside look right of things at that time because that just wasn't the thing. Right. But then it was broadcast to a certain extent when making the band came out exactly who the fuck he was and how he treated people, and it was just like, oh, it's Diddy, it's funny. He made him walk to he was putting these motherfuckers too hell. Yeah. Yo, that is crazy.

SPEAKER_08 1:28:15

It was a power trip, and that brings us back to today when we said he don't fucking got too big for his britches, and somebody said, Let me humble you.

SPEAKER_11 1:28:24

Yeah. Yo, every interview that they did with Diddy back then, I was I was I was talking to my wife, right? And I was like, yo, there's a thing where when you get um when when people you come in and get questioned, interrogation. Interrogation. When you get interrogations, interrogations look for more than like other things. They look at body language, they look at all the non-verbal cues to kind of figure out you're not kind of telling the truth. It's and and it's you don't never know that you're doing it, but it's stuff stuff like that. And one of the biggest things they said, they said, when you lie, you instinctively look down into the right. And they and they and then when you're looking for the truth, you look up into the left. And he said, the reason why you do that is because when you look to the right, though, and they're saying you're kind of trying to connect to the right side of your brain, which is your creative side, to think of something creative to lie about. And then when you look to your left, it's like you're that's the intelligent side of your brain. So when you're trying to search for the truth, that you're kind of up there, kind of looking for the truth, because that's your intelligent. Every interview with him, he talks soft in his like baby voice. And then we get asked the question, he always looked down into the right. Always. Every last time. Were you responsible for the killing and things? He looked down and just like, no, no. And it's like, oh my god, you don't see his body language.

SPEAKER_08 1:29:52

He doesn't even have to like it. He's he's monotone.

SPEAKER_11 1:29:55

Everything. Like your man just died, and he's nothing. And he he no emotions, no crying, no, that's my man. Which one is it?

SPEAKER_08 1:30:05

Is it psychopath or sociopath or both? Where they fake their emotions. Like they, it is, I thought so. Yeah, sociopath, they will fake, they do their best to fake their emotions, or what they call it, imitate people, people who have real emotions.

SPEAKER_11 1:30:21

Like the FBI said uh Biggie's mom don't fuck with them either. I was like, oh shit.

SPEAKER_08 1:30:27

And then when she came out and said she didn't really like him.

SPEAKER_11 1:30:31

And then he's on stage, like, thank you for Biggie's mom. He gave birth. And she was just like, that's a true island woman, because they'll just give you that fake ass, ha ha ha. Yeah, just because I'm on TV, bitch.

SPEAKER_09 1:30:43

Yeah, I after watching, because I watched the whole thing. Oh, I yeah, I got you on. I was like, I believe He did it 97% of this entire documentary. Whereas, I don't know if you guys watched the Irv Gotti one.

SPEAKER_06 1:31:00

No.

SPEAKER_09 1:31:00

Nah. So the Irv Gotti one I don't know, he made me cringe too much for me to even want to watch it. The majority of the interviews for that one, I'm not even talking about Irv's talking. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The people that was interviewed, like the other um singers and whatever in the industry, you could tell this was a formulated attack against Ashanti.

SPEAKER_10 1:31:24

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_09 1:31:25

And like he grabbed everyone in the industry that had some sort of issue with Ashanti to speak negatively about her. And so it was like, okay. So how is this an Irv Gotti documentary if you're just talking about Ashanti? But you could tell this is all designed to make it destroy her. Yeah. And for these people to get their feelings out about what they felt about her. Whereas the Diddy one, I went into it thinking that that's what this was gonna be because these things was behind.

SPEAKER_08 1:31:59

Yeah, that first episode didn't. First episode made it seem crazy because the information or what was given was kind of weird.

SPEAKER_11 1:32:05

It was kind of paying a narrative like a little bit.

SPEAKER_08 1:32:07

It was like, but why do why say this and then just skip to something else? Like, where's the in-between? It just it was too skippy for me.

SPEAKER_11 1:32:15

So that's why I was like, The thing that bothered me, I'm not gonna say one of the things that bothered me the most was the fact that all of these people, well-known people in the industry, the fact that they knew all of this stuff was going on and just I mean, okay, to pre to preface that though, if you're in a situation and know this man could pay to get you knocked off, would you? I mean, in that time.

SPEAKER_09 1:32:55

I don't even mean like the killing stuff. But even he was a big asshole. Even just knowing that like these people, some of these people sat around and watched Cassie just get her ass meeting.

SPEAKER_11 1:33:04

Yeah, but how but how can you how can you bring down quote unquote a god if nobody believes that a god can do that?

SPEAKER_08 1:33:12

I don't know what I'm saying. Especially back in that time, even still, but it's it's it it depends on people's actual morals. You have people who are gonna have hero tendencies and display.

Year-End Gems And Tough Love

SPEAKER_09 1:33:23

Because even the sex worker, even they kept um that was on regular rotation with them, yeah. And Diddy ended up beating her in front of him, and he jumped up and was like, yo, what the fuck you doing? And Diddy just turned to him and was like, You ain't gonna do nothing. And he didn't.

SPEAKER_11 1:33:38

Yeah. Money and greed, money and greed is always he has the money.

SPEAKER_08 1:33:43

And now he's suing Cassie. Who the the sex worker?

SPEAKER_11 1:33:47

They got to him. Yeah, so I'm trying to tell you. When you when you are when you get that. When you ask powerful as you are, because he he had he had way too much power way too early. He got humbled. Yeah, way too early. Like with that type of power, niggas can't have to be able to do that. How can you how can you even people have tried and yeah, like even the dude who sued him for his 25% stake, the fucking court said he did it too late. And it's like, how is that too late? He ain't go to the right people, like, or he might have had some people in his pocket because he he's he's that's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_08 1:34:23

He ain't go to the right people. Yeah, like you like if it was in the situation now, because I don't know when he went, was it like before all of this shit happened he um tried to sue? Yeah, like when he had to give up his fucking So here's my thing, like so if you got like how this shit playing out, you know there's people in a position to because look what they doing to him now. Yeah, I'd have been like, well, who these people hook me up? So this is what I want, and I'll give you all the information you need.

SPEAKER_11 1:34:49

Yeah, if you want me on the document, I need to get my right.

SPEAKER_08 1:34:52

You know what I'm saying? See if I can get my losses. Nah, if you're gonna put your life in danger, make it work for you.

SPEAKER_09 1:34:57

I guess what I mean more is just like why nobody spoke up, really. Yeah. Or more people spoke up. So just the fact of so like even back then, we knew Mary was getting her ass beat. Yeah. And it was just the running thing. Yeah. We knew that um, we knew that uh oh, wait, no.

SPEAKER_08 1:35:18

We ain't going that far back, sir.

SPEAKER_11 1:35:20

Stop it. It was a trend since then.

SPEAKER_08 1:35:22

We talk about people in the Diddy committee.

SPEAKER_09 1:35:25

We knew Aaliyah was a minority. Diddy committee? We knew Aaliyah was a minor and was married to R. Kelly, and that that's not okay. All of these people, powerful people, people in the industry, what have you, all knew these things was going on the same way we knew it was going on and we worked.

SPEAKER_08 1:35:40

We had no proof. Epstein files. We had no proof. We had no proof that uh R. Kelly was married to Aaliyah.

SPEAKER_11 1:35:45

We had no proof. I mean, as far as I'm talking about. Epstein files, people getting their ass beats and shit like that. It was just hearsay because nobody was actually, even if they was trying to come out, right? They'll drop a new record. We'd love the record and forget about everything else. That's just how we was kind of programmed.

SPEAKER_08 1:36:02

But outside of us, though. Yeah. But again, then again, it ain't no different money. But if you think about it, also, it ain't no different than you having a friend or a sibling that's getting their ass whooped. You do try to help, and they like null and void the whole shit. So now you don't did all of that, and they stay sticking with it. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. So that could have been a thing too, but even still, like, I don't know. I don't know if I could be like that.

SPEAKER_09 1:36:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_11 1:36:33

It's it's wild. I can't wait to get to episode three.

SPEAKER_09 1:36:35

Yeah, yeah, I gotta finish it.

SPEAKER_11 1:36:37

So that's crazy. All right. Uh we got me on your favorite part. Yep. The last gym of the year. We're gonna start this gym with a piece of advice for you fellas. Fellas, going into 2026. Wash a gooch.

SPEAKER_09 1:37:04

Why I was about to say the same.

SPEAKER_11 1:37:05

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_09 1:37:06

Not the gooch, but just wash.

SPEAKER_11 1:37:09

Period. Just wash. Um, that should be number one. Okay, so. That part advice for you fellas. Be her piece. Be her peace. She's going through a lot. Okay, and her foundation already doesn't match up with her neck. That's crazy. So be her piece. Take that as you will. Take it into 2026 and be her peace.

SPEAKER_08 1:37:41

You know, that is disturbing though. I hate that. I hate to see somebody who blending well. No, seriously, who doesn't blend well. Like, you can't put makeup on your face. I think that's what you was gonna say. I didn't either. But it it's facts. But at least tell your lady to, you know. Tell her. Be her peace and let her know your neck don't match your face, man.

SPEAKER_09 1:38:02

You got a black neck and a white head. Yeah, like that ain't don't let her go out like that.

SPEAKER_08 1:38:08

Blend that shit out. Like, it's been times my husband be like, I'll do like a contour and I don't blend it all the way out, and he'll be like, um, it's supposed to look like that. And I'll be like, huh?

SPEAKER_07 1:38:17

And then I'll look and I'll be like, let me go back in here and blend this out a little bit more.

SPEAKER_11 1:38:23

Gotta be her peace. Be her truth, okay? Even though she don't like it, be her truth.

SPEAKER_08 1:38:29

Nah, seriously, because don't be having your girl going outside looking crazy.

SPEAKER_11 1:38:33

Gym number two, fellas. We understand. Going into 2026, we understand. Who the fuck is this is Jim. Who the fuck is we he's supposed to vent to if everyone he puts his trust in betrayed him? I like that, Jim. It's it's it's a serious thing.

SPEAKER_09 1:38:56

Jesus.

SPEAKER_11 1:38:57

So trust in trust in the Lord. Just not in China.

SPEAKER_09 1:39:01

Oh where.

SPEAKER_11 1:39:03

Oh, wait. Oops. Oh no.

SPEAKER_09 1:39:06

Trust your instincts. Yes, trust your instincts.

SPEAKER_08 1:39:09

Yes, bitch. And men, y'all could journal too, you know. You ain't gotta tell people. If pe if you got that many people portraying you, you're choosing the wrong people.

SPEAKER_09 1:39:18

Diddy's beating you with a baby boil, like baby oil bottle. A baby boil. If he has a baby boil. Jot it down in a journal. Yikes.

SPEAKER_08 1:39:27

Yes, let's write it down.

SPEAKER_09 1:39:29

Let's wanna find it that's not connected to Diddy, who is not on his payroll.

SPEAKER_08 1:39:34

Right? And who's that?

SPEAKER_09 1:39:37

Me.

SPEAKER_11 1:39:38

Okay. And the last gym, this is something that should cheer you up. Fellas, somewhere, your ex is telling her new man how bad you were. And he's smiling like he won the lottery. Just two clowns in a circus. Think about it like that. That's my gym. Let's go 2026. We don't have to go in there with any drama. Get yourself some therapy. Talk to somebody. Florida, talk to anybody. I don't I don't know if that's gonna help.

SPEAKER_08 1:40:22

Why do people have to go in? Telling other people that something was trash. Like, why bother? Just move on.

SPEAKER_11 1:40:29

Yeah, just there's no need to bring up the why are you still thinking about it?

SPEAKER_08 1:40:32

Obviously, it wasn't trash. That's crazy.

SPEAKER_09 1:40:40

Happy New Year. Happy New Year.

SPEAKER_11 1:40:43

Happy New Year. And uh we're gonna end this. Oh, and happy anniversary. Oh my anniversary. Happy anniversary to Red Dot Music 25 years.

SPEAKER_08 1:40:56

Red Dot Music.

Closing Freestyle And Sign-Off

SPEAKER_11 1:40:58

Um my thing. Oh if you like my records, let me know. Doing my thing in 2026, baby. Let's go.

unknown 1:41:10

Do all my thing.

SPEAKER_00 1:41:12

I got my 5950 on tilt to sideways. Tilt tilt to sideways. Yo, I'm fresh to death. So when I woke up in the room, you better get out my way. Get out my way. Put some pepper in step. And get your grown man on and step in the name of get bully to the floor and kick to the left. Let's have no problems. I love you. Hate is your game's on the chain, so I'ma snatch that next. Now you all mad from my fall. You wanna do something? Do something, homie. Stop holding the walls. Shit. But don't test me though, I smack the pink off your tongue, don't stress me though. I'm here to party like you, leave with a few. Coke, bottles, is your coat. Models love me, mommy. Does he have what it takes to please you? She said no, I said me too. I'm here to do my thing. Do my thing, just do my thing, do my thing. I'm here doing my day. Do all my day, boy, doing my day, do all my thing, boy, do all my day, do all my day, do all my day, my day, do all my day, do all my day, boy, do all my day. Look at my truck, it's leanin' to the side. Yeah, I still got three wells spinning on the ride. And you're still outside, hitting sittin' on a curl. Every time I pass by, I'm getting on your curve. He got a little money now, he likes to blur. I'm fresh, I'm fly, I'm so superb. I'm such a flirt. When your girl around me, I'll be up in the skirt. And I bet you didn't know that your bitch can squirt. With a deep in the back, made a stomach works. I'm nasty. Ain't no other way to explain it. I draw the same picture, use different colors to paint it and all this. You ain't used the same lines. You came with him, hold them a drink. Then wonder will you're saying it? That drink out of loose whippy, a head sprung. She gave me that first degree, brain. She doin' her thing, doin' her thing, she doin' her thing. I'm here doing my day, doing my day, do all my day, doing my thing, do all my thing, do all my day, do all my day, do all my day, do all my thing, do all my day, do all my thing, do a mile, my do a mile, two money, two money, two money, two money, two money,